I think you’re missing the point of a website built with CSS. Using style sheets to define the overall presentation of one’s site would imply that the designer / developer has some interest in web standards. A website that doesn’t work in IE6 isn’t a standards-complaint site. Not every client is going to be using the “latest-and-greatest”. In fact, it’s often the exact opposite as many corporations have not made the switch to IE7.
There is a difference between taking a stand, and just being snarky or lazy, though I doubt it’s the latter.
I think the way they’ve implemented it is fine - The user gets a message if using IE6 and a link to firefox - great! I have wasted so many countless hours fixing stuff for IE6 it’s not funny… I’m over it.
And I’d be tempted to go this route on future sites to - provided the client was happy.
Plenty of cool stuff being done with Flash - seems ok for people to say you need the Flash plugin version 9 to view this papervision 3D - but it’s not ok to say “you need a standards compliant browser”?!?!?
Go Citrus - sock it to IE6!
Roy Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 6:43 am
@Roy
No I´m not missing the point yes I do understand W.S CSS XHTML
But if no one take action(got balls like citrus) EI6 can easy make it 5 more years but if we as developers push sites that docent absolutely need to be world wide compatible then we stand a chance to kill it before 2010
@FallenKnight
what a super example flash was:)
I think it’s a matter of target audience. If your target audience is the type of person likely to be annoyed by having to do “extra steps”. The type of person that just, “wants to use the internet” then making them download a new browser is a big deal. The point is, you need to cater to your audience, and some of those audience members still use non-complaint browsers like IE6.
As of March, IE6 was still higher than IE7 in usage (30% to ~21%). Thankfully, Firefox is over 37% now.
It is not acceptable as a “professional” design/web company to have this.
Why alienate the majority of internet users, I don’t care that IE6 isn’t very good, there are many things that aren’t very good but that doesn’t stop people using them.
They should AT LEAST have a site that does not have the functionality that IE7 and Firefox versions do, but at least give the user something.
I would be embarrassed if I had anything to do with this site! Just put some effort in, even if it means a modified version of the site.
Would a garage or mechanic have a sign telling Peugeot owners to go away and change their car to a Toyota because Toyotas suck? No.
To alienate a huge proportion of your target audience is a big oversight. I don’y use IE6 myself, but it should always be considered, and to not even give it a look in is a fundamental error.
Roger Dodger Says:
April 13th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Great layout, well done.
BobSox Says:
April 15th, 2008 at 7:28 am
Only available in IE7 or Firefox!! Ridiculous!
Roy Says:
April 15th, 2008 at 8:39 am
@BobSox
No it´s not ridiculous its cool to take a stand against a sucky browser
way to go Citrus may EI6 bur in hell:)
@Roy Says:
April 15th, 2008 at 10:00 am
I think you’re missing the point of a website built with CSS. Using style sheets to define the overall presentation of one’s site would imply that the designer / developer has some interest in web standards. A website that doesn’t work in IE6 isn’t a standards-complaint site. Not every client is going to be using the “latest-and-greatest”. In fact, it’s often the exact opposite as many corporations have not made the switch to IE7.
There is a difference between taking a stand, and just being snarky or lazy, though I doubt it’s the latter.
FallenKnight Says:
April 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
I think the way they’ve implemented it is fine - The user gets a message if using IE6 and a link to firefox - great! I have wasted so many countless hours fixing stuff for IE6 it’s not funny… I’m over it.
And I’d be tempted to go this route on future sites to - provided the client was happy.
Plenty of cool stuff being done with Flash - seems ok for people to say you need the Flash plugin version 9 to view this papervision 3D - but it’s not ok to say “you need a standards compliant browser”?!?!?
Go Citrus - sock it to IE6!
Roy Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 6:43 am
@Roy
No I´m not missing the point yes I do understand W.S CSS XHTML
But if no one take action(got balls like citrus) EI6 can easy make it 5 more years but if we as developers push sites that docent absolutely need to be world wide compatible then we stand a chance to kill it before 2010
@FallenKnight
what a super example flash was:)
Josh Harbaugh Says:
April 16th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I think it’s a matter of target audience. If your target audience is the type of person likely to be annoyed by having to do “extra steps”. The type of person that just, “wants to use the internet” then making them download a new browser is a big deal. The point is, you need to cater to your audience, and some of those audience members still use non-complaint browsers like IE6.
As of March, IE6 was still higher than IE7 in usage (30% to ~21%). Thankfully, Firefox is over 37% now.
Matt Bee Says:
April 24th, 2008 at 4:37 am
It is not acceptable as a “professional” design/web company to have this.
Why alienate the majority of internet users, I don’t care that IE6 isn’t very good, there are many things that aren’t very good but that doesn’t stop people using them.
They should AT LEAST have a site that does not have the functionality that IE7 and Firefox versions do, but at least give the user something.
I would be embarrassed if I had anything to do with this site! Just put some effort in, even if it means a modified version of the site.
Would a garage or mechanic have a sign telling Peugeot owners to go away and change their car to a Toyota because Toyotas suck? No.
In a word, disgraceful.
Matt Bee Says:
April 24th, 2008 at 4:38 am
** mistake there, whoops**
Would a garage or mechanic have a sign telling Peugeot owners to go away and change their car to a Toyota because Peugeots suck? No.
Griff Says:
April 24th, 2008 at 4:44 am
To alienate a huge proportion of your target audience is a big oversight. I don’y use IE6 myself, but it should always be considered, and to not even give it a look in is a fundamental error.
(Looks pretty though)
;)
cystoscope Says:
May 31st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
This design is so unusual. I love the retro 70 colors and the wave near the top. It really stands out from the rest of the blah on the net.